Ep. 19 Part 2 Just Having Fun!

Morning Coffee and Ag Markets Podcast

February 11, 2025

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Media Contact

Mary Hightower

U of A System Division of Agriculture
(501) 671-2006  |  mhightower@uada.edu

In this lighthearted episode, we continue the conversation from Part 1 with our special guest, John McMinn from Arkansas Farm Bureau. What started as a roundtable discussion on the latest ag news and markets quickly transforms into a casual coffee shop chat. Riley, Hunter, Ryan, and John take a break from the usual stats and headlines to dive into fun, offbeat topics – the kind of random musings you’d overhear while sipping coffee at your local diner. Whether you’re driving to the farm or just looking to unwind, this episode is sure to bring some laughs and easygoing conversation to your day!

Portrait photo of Riley SmithRiley Smith, Program Associate
Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness
rsmith@uada.edu

Portrait photo of Ryan LoyRyan Loy, Assistant Professor and Extension Agricultural Economist
Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness
rloy@uada.edu

 

HunterHutner Biram, Assistant Professor and Extension Agricultural Economist
Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness

hdbiram@uark.edu

John McMinn

Director, Commodity Activities and Economics
(Soybean & Specialty Crops)

john.mcminn@arfb.com

Transcript

00;00;00;17 – 00;00;25;09
Riley Smith
Hello everyone. So on this part of the episode, we decided to go with the part two just because the episode ran longer than normal. We just sat around and had normal, you know, coffee shop conversation, so we thought it’d be interesting if we just went ahead and made a part two. We’re calling it just having fun because we’re just sitting around having fun, having a good having a good visit, having a good conversation.

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Riley Smith
So, hope you all enjoy.

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Riley Smith
I wanted to poke you for a second, because you kind of skipped over it. Yeah. So what happened to the Cowboys dream ?

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John McMinn
Well, I’m 5’9 , 5’10 on a good day when I’m wearing my boots. I’ve been this tall since ninth grade or eighth grade. So when I got to eighth grade, I was like, oh, yeah, we got a chance. But by the time I got to, like, 11th grade, I was like, I’m still the same height.

00;00;55;10 – 00;00;56;05
John McMinn
I’m not going to be

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Could’ve been a slot receiver.

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John McMinn
Yeah, yeah, I could have been a deep snapper, but I couldn’t even I couldn’t even snapshot. Yeah.

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Riley Smith
So like

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Riley Smith
so this this

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John McMinn
is it either.

00;01;04;29 – 00;01;18;25
Riley Smith
So this is a, this is a chance we don’t get to do very much with, special guest. So I figured we just kind of, you know, talk a little bit just to have fun. They in the podcast. I know it’s a little bit longer than what our listeners are used to.

00;01;18;27 – 00;01;19;15
Dr. Ryan Loy
It was worth it.

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Riley Smith
But it’s worth it.

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John McMinn
And before.

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Riley Smith
No no no no no no no no no, these roundtable discussions, they tend to be longer. Yeah, they tend to be longer. But I mean, we don’t.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
This is our I think our first actual outside of UADA guest is that right?

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John McMinn
It is.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
That’s what I think it is.

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Riley Smith
Bring up the honorable win.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
That’s right. No.

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John McMinn
The pull out all the stock.

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Riley Smith
No. Y’all did want it. Knoxville. Well, yeah.

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John McMinn
Well, it was still academic.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Academic? Yeah. That’s true. That’s right. Yeah.

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Riley Smith
That’s true. But you say you said front you from Sugar Town. Yeah.

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John McMinn
Sugar city in the city. Do you know why it’s called Sugar Town? No.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Do you know? No. Is that stuck, Stuttgart? No, I’ve no idea.

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John McMinn
You take all the teas out of Stuttgart. It’s. Well, sugar.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Oh, that’s.

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Riley Smith
One of my really good friends. She run the Sugar Town Mercantile. Yeah.

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John McMinn
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So a buddy of mine, has gotten really big in cooking and stuff. Social media. And he gets a box from them, like, monthly.

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Riley Smith
Yep. No. Good. Really good friend of mine. I grew up with her.

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John McMinn
Cool.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Yeah. When I first moved here, I didn’t know that it was how Arkansans pronounced cities. And so I knew Stuttgart, Germany, you know, and so I kept going. It’s two car. Well, people were looking at me like, what is going on? And I’m like, like, it’s stuck.

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John McMinn
Well, I mean that you’re not completely at fault. And it’s Stuttgart was started by German immigrants, right?

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Right.

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Riley Smith
So what interesting you said that, you know, I’m full of history, but for a 26 year old. But her neighbor, Mr. Herbert, he’s long gone now. But, he’s originally from Stuttgart, and he is German blood.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Oh, okay. Yeah.

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Riley Smith
Yeah, it’s. Oh. Family was. Yeah. Herb Schroeder.

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John McMinn
Herb Schroeder

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John McMinn
I know some Schroeder’s. But we’re kind of transplants. My family and I originally from Stuttgart. Some of us hot Springs. Dad’s from outside Oklahoma City, so. But, yeah, we just. It’s kind of funny. Like when I went to school. You could tell the difference. I’m not saying I could tell people that. People could tell we were from Stuttgart.

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John McMinn
Right? I don’t know really why that was, just maybe it’s the accent or maybe how we kind of hold ourselves, honestly, to tell you it’s bad or good, and it could be. Well, and.

00;03;23;24 – 00;03;27;24
Riley Smith
I don’t mean this in a bad way either. Stuttgart has a click.

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John McMinn
Yes, that’s very true.

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Riley Smith
So does carlisle and so does lonoke.

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John McMinn
Yeah. Right.

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Riley Smith
Or we call it lo noke

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John McMinn
yeah even hazen.

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John McMinn
You know that whole area they live.

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Riley Smith
They’ve DeValls bluff. And then you got umphrey. It’s not Humphrey, It’s umphrey.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
What I learned yesterday. It’s not New Madrid, it’s Madrid

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Riley Smith
Madrid

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Madrid. Yeah yeah yeah I learned that yesterday listening to the rice.

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Riley Smith
And then talk. Daddy always calls it De-Witt.

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John McMinn
Yeah. Yeah.

00;03;53;22 – 00;03;55;07
Riley Smith
Not Dewitt but De-Witt

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Dr. Hunter Biram
Well there’s what is it. It says la I think Lodge corner Lodge is or is it the as it is. And they just say it’s.

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John McMinn
Lodge, it’s lodge corner but everybody pronounces it lodges.

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Dr. Hunter Biram
Is that so. That’s it.

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John McMinn
Yeah. But yeah, I grew up in Stuttgart since I was like four.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Oh, wow. Okay.

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John McMinn
Move back to after school for about four years. Worked for John Deere as GPS consultant and then found my way here. Extension in this building and then on the Farm Bureau. But I was in Stuttgart the other day actually. So opening day of deer season.

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John McMinn
Oh.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Very nice.

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John McMinn
Yeah. Any look, I was I didn’t, didn’t say anything worth pulling my gun up on, but I did run across two hogs that didn’t run past me.

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Riley Smith
Good deal. Keep them down. Yeah. So I’m from White County? Yeah. From south. It’s actually about seven miles west of Griffithville

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John McMinn
Yeah, yeah, I know exactly.

00;04;44;24 – 00;04;48;03
Riley Smith
Right. And, we ain’t got hogs yet, but keep them down there.

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John McMinn
Yeah, this was southeast of Stuttgart, so we haven’t made a Pitts County. We haven’t really bad. They’re not as bad.

00;04;53;12 – 00;04;55;13
Dr. Ryan Loy
As we’ve got them in. We’ve got them in Benton there.

00;04;55;13 – 00;04;57;09
Riley Smith
Yeah. No. Yeah. Well we’ve I’ve.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Played is we.

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Riley Smith
Have there yet. Knock on wood. We do not have hogs here. We had nine of them show up one time. That was just because there was a guy that, he, got indicted and he turned his loose, and there you go. And one of my buddies was over there cutting the wheat crop, and, he just happened to have his rifle with him, and he, got all nine of them as I was trying to leave the field.

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Riley Smith
Yeah. And we’ve not had any. And I, we’ve had a few beers.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
I’ve got videos of. I’m going fishing early in the morning down at the Benton Athletic Complex, right by the school, right by the river. And I’ll walk up. I mean, I’ve got videos of just just sounders of him running around down there at the river bottoms. They’re everywhere.

00;05;36;26 – 00;05;44;25
John McMinn
Yeah, yeah. Not to change what you said. I, I’m thoroughly I thoroughly believe the bear population, black bear population in the state is going up.

00;05;44;27 – 00;06;02;22
Riley Smith
And it’s like they released him. So my brother worked for the Arkansas game fish to. And, they have relocated some of them. Yeah. And I think that’s intentional. Just because I don’t know if they were a, I don’t know what you’d call it, like a natural species for a year.

00;06;02;24 – 00;06;05;11
Dr. Ryan Loy
Yeah. I think they’re, they’re actually from here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00;06;05;11 – 00;06;26;03
Riley Smith
They’re not trained. I’ve noticed because I’ve got a few buddies up and around deer Northern, the kind of like northwestern Arkansas mega kind of go through Clarksville and okay, that part of the world, they’ve got quite a few bear, but and they hunt them. But there’s a quota.

00;06;26;06 – 00;06;26;13
John McMinn
Yeah.

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Riley Smith
Right on them. Right. And you have to call every day to see if they filled the quota. Yeah. And when the last ones field, they will send out a message. If you’re, you know, tied into that community, they’ll send out a message letting you know that the last bird in life, and I’ve seen it steadily increase each year.

00;06;41;25 – 00;06;56;10
John McMinn
In our area. We get like a week, like seven days to, for bear hunt and it’s a quota too. But those bear I figured out what week that is. Oh yeah. You know it’s kind of like that. You could get them on camera every day. But that week comes in they know. Yeah.

00;06;56;11 – 00;07;00;08
Riley Smith
It’s kind of like the turkey man here. But yeah to weigh the yeah.

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John McMinn
I, I.

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Riley Smith
Don’t have that problem. Yeah.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Well I tell those it seems like right in rifle season comes in they’re like oh yeah I remember this.

00;07;07;12 – 00;07;24;13
Riley Smith
Well see my see my zone has or is nearly it’s a little over month rifle season is because it opens second weekend in November. Yeah. And then it closes I think the second week in December. And then we have the Christmas on it.

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John McMinn
Yeah. Yeah.

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Riley Smith
But turkey season and they set it up for that specific reason. What’s the let everything get bred. Because our Turkey population is not near like our surrounding states are low. And they’ve set it up that way. And so when the by the time you get you season the weekend before regular season, you can go and they’ll gobble their head off that way.

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Riley Smith
Yeah. We can’t season opens because they only stretched it out two weeks I think. But they’ve limit you one bird per seven days the first seven days. And then you can shoot your two birds. If you didn’t shoot, shoot one, but you won’t ever hear them, right. There’s there’s kind of like this kind of like rut.

00;08;06;28 – 00;08;07;23
John McMinn
The gobble down.

00;08;07;25 – 00;08;11;01
Riley Smith
Their rut was two weeks for season and now.

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John McMinn
They fit. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I’ve always told people I finally, took my first turkey in Arkansas last year, I this last spring, it’s still taken me 6 or 7 years of making tremendously hard mistakes. Right. Pills to swallow. And, I’ve always told people like, if you can get one in Arkansas, eat your turkey either.

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Riley Smith
And that’s something like, I’ve, I found a lot of really good turkey hunters like especially Chase the 49 and you never hear about Arkansas said, oh hardest bird kills in them ridges in Alabama and Georgia and Mississippi. And I’m like, you never hear mentioned anything about louisiana or Arkansas.

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John McMinn
No, I, I’ve never been out of state to turkey hunt, but I can just, I would love to it it almost be too easy.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Oklahoma wasn’t bad. Yeah, I love her.

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John McMinn
To the line. I heard there’s a lot of them in Oklahoma.

00;09;01;16 – 00;09;12;27
Riley Smith
Well, I always I always look at it this way. It’s not necessarily that we have turkeys, and it’s kind of like hunting big deer. It’s hard to kill a big deer when he ain’t there.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
That’s right, that’s right.

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Riley Smith
Yeah. A lot of people don’t like you can wish you can wish a deer to walk and find a big deer to walk in front of. But guess what? If he ain’t on camera and he ain’t there, you ain’t gonna kill him. No deer hunting. You’re hunting the fact, you know, an imagination, right? Turkey? Same way. If you ain’t got turkeys, you probably ain’t gonna kill turkey.

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Riley Smith
And we’ve worked so hard on our farm for the last ten years trying to get the Turkey population back. And I finally have got turkeys back up on us.

00;09;42;03 – 00;09;43;02
John McMinn
That’s tough to do, man.

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Riley Smith
Grow them.

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John McMinn
It’s real tough to do.

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Riley Smith
And I mean, it’s taken I haven’t the first turkey and the only turkey I’ve missed several. When I was six years old in Pocahontas on the black River. And people are like, that is the weirdest place to kill a turkey. But I had 35 of them in front of me and my dad that morning. But that’s how long it’s been and not finally have got a long beard to hunt and we won’t shoot them.

00;10;07;00 – 00;10;17;28
Riley Smith
And it’s just because you want them to race and stay. Yeah. And when we finally get to a place like where we can, we’ll take 1 or 2 and then continuously let it grow.

00;10;18;01 – 00;10;37;04
John McMinn
You know, what I’ve learned, what we’re taking this podcast and the turkey hum, that’s like. Yes. But like what I’ve learned with turkey hunting is like, if you’re going to kill on opening weekend, there’s a reason for that. You’ve either been Scout ING and watching and found where they’re at, or you just got lucky, because I usually don’t have the time to do all that.

00;10;37;07 – 00;10;47;05
Riley Smith
Every game you either know is mailing address, and what do you like the his vocal sounds and what he’s going to do and where he’s at. And we’ll be underneath this tree at 430 that morning.

00;10;47;05 – 00;11;03;28
John McMinn
Yeah. The one I killed that morning was because I’ve been going every weekend in that same area and I was like, oh, that’s also over here. So I’m going to go sit over there this morning. And lo and behold, they were there. Like, it just had to take me to be there to see where they’re at or hear where they’re at because they’ll they’re in little pockets.

00;11;04;00 – 00;11;10;17
John McMinn
Oh, yeah. You know, and like you said, if you’re, if you’re sitting on a tree that there’s no turkeys there, then you’re not killing one. Right.

00;11;10;24 – 00;11;32;24
Riley Smith
And in a turkey they have a pattern. They have the same pattern every time unless you disturb that pattern. So killing a turkey, a lot of guys say less Collins better. Kind of like ducks if you’re if you’re a duck caller. Yeah, ducks are the same way. A lot of people want to hear their self call when it time they remember.

00;11;32;26 – 00;11;50;00
Riley Smith
But sometimes the best thing to do, sometimes just time tape a quarter to it and throw it out in the water. Yeah, it’s you know, it’s right. So they lost something or something and not call it on a turkey. Same way if you can get in his line and know his pattern and where he’s going. Yeah. What time and just get in his way.

00;11;50;02 – 00;12;07;03
Riley Smith
You know. He ever got a call? He’ll walk right by you. That’s right. Yeah. It’s kind of like deer near. Same way big bucks. Got a pattern every time he takes a line. Every time an old man told me one time, he said that deer passes a thousand trees a day. You just got to pick the right tree.

00;12;07;06 – 00;12;16;26
Riley Smith
No pressure. But there’s a lot of factors. I mean, like, he passes a tree at a certain time every day. Yeah. You just got to be in that tree when he walks by. Yeah. Turkey. Same way.

00;12;17;00 – 00;12;18;28
John McMinn
Yep yep yep that’s true.

00;12;19;00 – 00;12;20;16
Riley Smith
But well that was an interesting.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Was that was good I enjoyed I thought it was great. Yeah.

00;12;23;27 – 00;12;27;14
John McMinn
If y’all want to start a hunting podcast I like that.

00;12;27;15 – 00;12;41;02
Riley Smith
So you were talking about you getting into broadcasting everything. What I found interesting is, is that you you were talking about your teacher card. Your mom said you were going to be really good. Were you in FFA? I was did you do extemporaneous or did you do discussion?

00;12;41;08 – 00;13;02;07
John McMinn
I didn’t do any of them. Be honest with you, my FFA, I don’t know if they even tell everybody at this work. I work at it and get into FFA to my senior year. And the main reason I got in there for FFA was because we would do monthly or at least holiday lunches, and then I’d also get out of class for other FFA reasons.

00;13;02;09 – 00;13;19;16
John McMinn
Oh yeah. Along with my, my work like I also had the last period of the day was I could go to whatever job I had. Right. And if I had FFA rep for that and it was just like I got to have almost half a day of school. But then, all my buddies were NFA and I’m getting the longer answer than what you wanted.

00;13;19;16 – 00;13;34;10
John McMinn
But I learned what FFA was and really regretted not getting involved in it sooner. I was in like, I think, what was the business kind of general business club Deca, oh, FBLa, I was in FBA, a futures business.

00;13;34;12 – 00;13;38;27
Riley Smith
Just so association. I came here and I, I might.

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Dr. Ryan Loy
Be an Arkansas thing.

00;13;39;22 – 00;13;52;14
Riley Smith
I’m not sure. No, we had FFA and FBLa maybe. Okay. Yeah. It was. And they were both like the huge clubs. And then they started, what was the trade one that they started? Skills.

00;13;52;20 – 00;13;54;10
John McMinn
Skills. I don’t think we had skills.

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Riley Smith
They started skills, early 2000. And that was like a trait that was more like, so you have FFA, which is my ag general. Have ag mechanics, ag electricity, you have livestock judging, horse judging, dairy etc.. Skills was like the trades split where you had like small engines, you had welding, you had plumbing, you had. And so like it was almost like vocational FFA is too.

00;14;24;21 – 00;14;42;05
Riley Smith
But it was like they separated them. Yeah. Where you could go in and give because view was going to come out of school and not go to, college. And he was going to go to like a trade college, like I went to ASU Searcy my senior year. Yeah. Because I had all my, credits, all my courses taken.

00;14;42;05 – 00;15;01;03
Riley Smith
So I had an English and a math that morning. I had one class after that. And then at lunch we took off and went searching for three hours, and I was in the welding program there. Yeah. So. And you could get into skills that way and, you could go do welding contest went all kind of in. It’s a big, big organization.

00;15;01;03 – 00;15;09;06
Riley Smith
But yeah, I was just curious. You were talking about speaking and that would have been if you were a big speaker, that would have been something you’d probably been really good at.

00;15;09;06 – 00;15;31;01
John McMinn
Yeah. I don’t think I was a big speaker at that point in my life. The older I got, the more confident I got myself. I guess I was a very shy kid growing up. Little chubby, shy kid that were husky jeans, like, I was not a public speaker, didn’t really want to be in the public eye. And then I think the older I got, the more I got out of that shell.

00;15;31;04 – 00;15;52;03
John McMinn
And yet, you know, it comes with confidence. And I think, what just a public speaking example I did, I always thought I was really good at public speaking after that point. Teachers giving me that. Go ahead, I did it. Church. We did it. We do. Every year, seniors get a scholarship or some money from the church, and they give a little speech.

00;15;52;06 – 00;15;58;07
John McMinn
And I don’t think they were expecting the quality of the speech I was going to give. But the reason is, like, I’m making them laugh right?

00;15;58;07 – 00;15;58;16
Riley Smith
Right.

00;15;58;17 – 00;16;17;18
John McMinn
Absolutely. And when I figured that out, that was kind of one of the goals and all my public speeches. But I did my last semester at school in Belgium, and I had to give a yeah, I had to give one presentation. That was the only grade we received in the entire class. There was no homework quizzes, there was no tests, no attendance grade.

00;16;17;18 – 00;16;36;12
John McMinn
It was just this final presentation. And me and a buddy that grew up with one went over there together. And, I stand up and all of my speeches start off with some sort of little one liner just to try to break the ice. And I don’t know if it was the language barrier or what. I don’t remember what the joke was, but it just fell flat.

00;16;36;14 – 00;16;49;26
John McMinn
And I even gave the pause to everybody and they just kind of stared at me. Oh, but that was my buddy in the back, like, oh no, no, they didn’t laugh. And I was like, all right, well, anyways, let’s roll through that. But I’ve never forgotten that.

00;16;49;27 – 00;16;50;25
Riley Smith
Well, gave it a shot.

00;16;50;25 – 00;17;11;11
John McMinn
Yeah, I’ve had some I’ve had some bad speeches before and recently I’m sure too, but that, that one sticks out really, really well. Oh I bet, yeah, but it hasn’t stopped you. No no, no, no, that was a learning experience. You know, and, understand your, community, your culture. That’s right. You know? No, you’re on people, the audience in the room.

00;17;11;12 – 00;17;30;05
John McMinn
That’s right. And, but, yeah, that was that’s probably my first experience in that. But working at John Deere and Greenway was learning how to talk to people, being a salesman or even a technician kind of split hybrid job. I had an trying to I good example was like somebody would call me and say, well, my display isn’t working or whatever.

00;17;30;07 – 00;17;48;05
John McMinn
At first I would say, all right, well, you need to unplug it. And somebody would say, well, I already did that. No, I’m past that. Like, oh yeah, you’re like 20, so you understand. But then I would call it somebody else would call and the gentleman would be, you know, 50, 60, 70 years old. And I’d say, well, you need to try this, but where’s that?

00;17;48;08 – 00;17;54;10
John McMinn
You know, so it was and sometimes it would. And then dealing with all these, oh stuff like that, that, that helped quite a bit.

00;17;54;13 – 00;18;01;06
Riley Smith
Know. Oh yeah. And then you got off the phone with them and you’re like, that old man’s probably cursing me up or down like it’s useless.

00;18;01;06 – 00;18;23;23
John McMinn
And, yeah, the a lot of it ended up with like, I’ll be there in 15. I’m just all alone. Yeah, yeah. Let it die. So, yeah, it the public speaking is, something that I always tell people. I’m a, extroverted introvert. Yeah, I kind of forced myself to be extroverted. And I think that had to.

00;18;23;24 – 00;18;31;10
John McMinn
That has to happen with the job I do. And not just the podcast, but if I. If I want to be successful in life, I really gotta be out there and put myself.

00;18;31;10 – 00;18;47;14
Riley Smith
Out in front of just a group. I can’t I can’t even imagine that because I was I was notched as a young and yeah, I was I’ve got to talk and Jane from my grandmother always said she could talk. You could talk the horns off a Billy goat, but I don’t fall far from the tree. My dad, my granddad was the same way.

00;18;47;16 – 00;18;58;11
Riley Smith
Yeah, and that’s why I have these two here. Because they’re my bumper guards, so they keep me busy. I always tell 100 sight. Look, if I get down the rabbit hole and I start talking too mushy, they go. Go. All right, here we go. You know?

00;18;58;13 – 00;19;07;04
John McMinn
Yeah, I think it helps. I’m interested in a lot of different things to those. I’m not. I don’t mean to be nosy, but I’m just like, oh yeah. So, like, what you do for a living or how you did that.

00;19;07;04 – 00;19;09;07
Dr. Ryan Loy
Or and it’s always built a good conversation to do that.

00;19;09;07 – 00;19;10;07
John McMinn
Right. Absolutely.

00;19;10;07 – 00;19;13;11
Dr. Ryan Loy
Yeah. Interested in people that what the people are doing, the what you’ve done.

00;19;13;11 – 00;19;33;10
Riley Smith
That’s it. And it helps to be a passionate person too, because like if you’re passionate about things and then you’re also I think you have to be passionate about learning. Yeah. Be a sponge no matter what it is. Because if, if you have like a yay or nay type of mindset like no I don’t agree with that.

00;19;33;10 – 00;19;38;21
Riley Smith
Yes I agree with that instead. Okay. Well tell me, tell me about it. Explain it to me about that. Yeah.

00;19;38;23 – 00;19;39;27
John McMinn
What did you mean by that.

00;19;39;28 – 00;19;41;29
Dr. Hunter Biram
You know, rather than like just asking. Explain yourself.

00;19;41;29 – 00;19;56;21
John McMinn
It’s interesting you say that information you were willingness to learn because I said the same exact thing. The Ron Rainy in this room for my interview when I worked here. Oh, yeah. I was like, Ron, I just, I don’t miss the school work of school, but I miss the information that was. Oh, yeah. Given.

00;19;56;22 – 00;19;57;23
Dr. Ryan Loy
Absolutely.

00;19;57;26 – 00;20;12;08
John McMinn
I was like, if I have can’t figure something out, or if I have a curiosity about something, I immediately get on the internet. That’s right. Whether it’s YouTube or reading a blog or article. And and so I got a constant sponge, maybe not so much in my older age at 38.

00;20;12;11 – 00;20;15;08
Dr. Ryan Loy
But, it’s never too old to be a sponge. Use my absorbent.

00;20;15;08 – 00;20;17;26
John McMinn
Yeah, I think I’ve narrowed my interest a little bit, and water.

00;20;17;26 – 00;20;18;22
Dr. Hunter Biram
Leaks out so that new.

00;20;18;22 – 00;20;22;06
John McMinn
Water can come, right? So yeah.

00;20;22;08 – 00;20;46;15
Riley Smith
There’s always there’s always a better way to do it. Yeah. Everybody has a certain way they do it and but it’s never it’s never simple. A lot of people have. It’s my way or the highway. I don’t look at it. My daddy always said in this, you can take this to the bank, find the hardest job you’ve got, give it to the laziest man you got, and he will find the easiest way to do it.

00;20;46;15 – 00;21;00;24
Dr. Ryan Loy
And I appreciate it. So I’m pretty sure it’s like a bill famous Bill gates quote. That’s how he was like a that’s how he built or something that’s like a real thing. That’s that’s how that’s how Bill gates built Microsoft. He just hired all the laziest people he could. It seems like they’ll find the most efficient way to do it.

00;21;00;24 – 00;21;01;16
Dr. Ryan Loy
Yeah. You know.

00;21;01;16 – 00;21;04;25
Riley Smith
Yeah, yeah, just think about that for a second. I mean.

00;21;04;27 – 00;21;08;21
John McMinn
Truthfully, that’s good that I’m not laughing at you. I’m laughing. How true.

00;21;08;21 – 00;21;10;11
Dr. Ryan Loy
That. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very true.

00;21;10;14 – 00;21;12;01
John McMinn
And I didn’t think of it that way.

00;21;12;04 – 00;21;14;18
Riley Smith
But I mean, seriously, as long as they try.

00;21;14;18 – 00;21;16;17
Dr. Ryan Loy
Yeah. So yeah, that’s the caveat.

00;21;16;17 – 00;21;37;26
Riley Smith
But there’s there’s always enough. It’s how things are created. You not called. And this is a good example because this is how my brain works when you learn to duck call. You didn’t you didn’t call exactly like somebody else. You listen to this guy, you listen to this guy, you listen to this guy. And then you took a piece saying, well, I like that.

00;21;37;26 – 00;21;47;03
Riley Smith
I’ll take it. You take that, I’ll take a piece of that. I’ll take a piece of that. Yeah. And then you made John’s duck call routine. His his sound. Yeah.

00;21;47;03 – 00;21;48;26
John McMinn
It’s not very good, but it is mine.

00;21;48;28 – 00;21;50;09
Riley Smith
But that’s the.

00;21;50;11 – 00;21;53;28
Dr. Ryan Loy
It’s it’s a real sound. Oh, yeah.

00;21;53;28 – 00;22;01;00
Riley Smith
So it’s just like the sound, but it’s just like anything else. I mean, you have the fundamentals, you have the basics, the foundation.

00;22;01;00 – 00;22;01;17
John McMinn
That’s right.

00;22;01;19 – 00;22;15;21
Riley Smith
And then you build your own from there. But you the only way you get there is, is by absorbing the information, getting educated and constantly wanting to learn. If you stop learning, I mean, and I just sound like a book right now, but.

00;22;15;24 – 00;22;31;06
Dr. Ryan Loy
No, but I think this is good information. I think it’s great. And I think the same argument can be made for any famous musician that we’ve ever, that you could ever think of. I mean, it’s the same idea, right? Like if I take Elvis as an example, he took from that southern Mississippi blues culture, he took from all those other things and then made his own thing.

00;22;31;06 – 00;22;33;02
Dr. Ryan Loy
Yeah. And so it’s same kind of.

00;22;33;02 – 00;22;38;07
Riley Smith
Idea and that’s it. And we can tie that to agriculture. Right? Farming. It’s the.

00;22;38;12 – 00;22;39;08
Dr. Ryan Loy
Same thing.

00;22;39;10 – 00;22;49;04
Riley Smith
You ain’t farming in 1942 anymore. No, no, no, we’re not farming conventional varieties anymore. The times have changed. The varieties have changed. Equipment has changed. I mean,

00;22;49;05 – 00;22;49;17
John McMinn
Technology

00;22;49;20 – 00;23;03;18
Riley Smith
technology has changed everything. But they’ve got to continue to learn. But you’ve also got to remember that’s where the past. Yeah. And take it in. That’s why there’s forecasting. That’s right.

00;23;03;19 – 00;23;11;17
Riley Smith
So if we look ahead but we also look behind us and see what the pattern is going to be ahead of us. That’s right. Yeah. Because everything revolves in cycles.

00;23;11;20 – 00;23;14;09
John McMinn
Hopefully the ducks are that way. Hopefully they’re coming back here in a few years.

00;23;14;10 – 00;23;24;23
Riley Smith
Oh yeah. Unfortunately if we don’t get if we don’t get any more water which, which on the market report Mississippi River did come up. We’re above the negative stage. That’s good.

00;23;24;24 – 00;23;27;24
Dr. Ryan Loy
We are we’re we’re in the negative stage. This time last year.

00;23;27;26 – 00;23;36;07
Riley Smith
Yes we were we was negative things I believe 8.9. And it’s 6.6 today oh good. Positive 6.6. Positive 6.6.

00;23;36;09 – 00;23;37;04
Dr. Ryan Loy
Big shift there.

00;23;37;04 – 00;23;40;26
Riley Smith
It’s good which I’m hoping that helps. So it’s the fertilizer demo.

00;23;40;28 – 00;23;41;27
John McMinn
We need fertilizer.

00;23;41;27 – 00;23;55;22
Dr. Ryan Loy
And we’ll talk. We’ll cover that in the market report John I really appreciate your time. It’s been great getting to learn about you. Learn about Farm Bureau, learn about the Federation as a whole. And just, you know, if there’s anything you want to leave our listeners with, you’re welcome to do so. Otherwise, I just really thank you for your time and always a great conversation.

00;23;55;22 – 00;23;55;29
Dr. Ryan Loy
Yeah.

00;23;56;00 – 00;24;07;11
John McMinn
Thanks for having me. If there’s anything you’re curious about Farm Bureau wise or you want to get involved, feel free to contact my email is , john.mcminn@arfb.com

00;24;07;12 – 00;24;09;02
Dr. Ryan Loy
And we’ll link it in the newsletter, if you don’t mind.

00;24;09;02 – 00;24;11;16
John McMinn
Description. Just don’t put my home address.

00;24;11;23 – 00;24;15;06
Dr. Ryan Loy
Okay. So put your Social Security instead.

00;24;15;08 – 00;24;26;28
Riley Smith
Want to, I want to thank all you guys coming in today. And, Mr. John taking the time for coming over here. And thanks for him. All our listeners, please, if you ain’t a Farm Bureau member, go be a Farm Bureau member.

00;24;27;00 – 00;24;28;18
John McMinn
And you can apply online now.

00;24;28;21 – 00;24;29;04
Dr. Ryan Loy
Very good.

00;24;29;07 – 00;24;29;11
Dr. Hunter Biram
Yeah,

00;24;29;14 – 00;24;30;14
Dr. Hunter Biram
we can put a link for that.

00;24;30;17 – 00;24;32;00
Dr. Ryan Loy
Yeah, we can do it. Yeah, absolutely.

00;24;32;00 – 00;24;37;11
Riley Smith
If you get Farm Bureau insurance, you’re a member already. If you didn’t know that, they charge that on the front end.

00;24;37;18 – 00;24;50;00
John McMinn
And I’ll add like another, I think another positive to being a Farm Bureau member. And we kind of hinted at it earlier. Is that not only we advocating for agriculture, but it’s a networking you receive with the farmers inside of the community, a farm bureau.

00;24;50;00 – 00;24;56;27
Dr. Ryan Loy
And it comes back to what we were just talking about, you pulling a piece from this person. You can just learn. You’re always learn and you can and you can take that skillset back to.

00;24;57;01 – 00;25;01;04
John McMinn
This network of people like, man, I bet Joe’s had this problem for a year. We call him. That’s right.

00;25;01;07 – 00;25;11;10
Riley Smith
Or you’ll be sitting there. You go. I’m been fighting that for ten years and I didn’t think of that. I can’t tell you how many times that’s happened. Yeah, but anyway.

00;25;11;10 – 00;25;15;06
John McMinn
Yeah. Thank you. I mean, of course, a lot of fun and a lot of diverse conversation.

00;25;15;08 – 00;25;19;12
Dr. Ryan Loy
That’s why I know it’s always a blast here. It’s always to. Yeah.

00;25;19;14 – 00;25;39;10
Riley Smith
But anyhow. All right guys, so we hope you enjoyed that part of the episode. It’s not our normal thing, but we might try to start adding that into, some future episodes. So once again, we want to thank you all for joining in on another episode of Morning Coffee and AG Markets. Y’all come back next week and we’ll, hope you have a good rest of your work week.

00;25;39;12 – 00;25;43;02
Riley Smith
And, until next time, we’ll catch you on the flip flop. Bye Bye now.

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